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Does President Bush use an earpiece?
Posted by holyjuan on Oct 07, 2004 at 11:58 AM

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EuroTrash spoke on Oct 07, 2004 at 03:17 PM
that accusation is a little weird, but on the other side of the coin, kerry may have broken debate rules himself. He clearly takes something out of his pocket at the beginning of the debate and places it on the podium, and while im not saying it was a cheat sheet, the debate rules say that even blank paper and pen for taking notes must be placed on the podium by debate staff before hand. Its pretty clear in the video and pictures, maybe kerry isn't that smart of a guy after all. Oh, by the way, this info is from the drudge report, so its a little sketch, but the facts look straight [link]
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Anonymous Coward spoke on Oct 07, 2004 at 03:26 PM
One of the rules was that neither candidate was supposed to address the other directly. Bush broke this in a couple of occasions when he was rattled by Kerry and starting whining.
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squee spoke on Oct 07, 2004 at 04:32 PM
I was wondering why he seemed to pause as if he needed to collect his thoughts every 3 words.
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ChePibe spoke on Oct 07, 2004 at 06:03 PM
He always wanted to be in the Secret Service, but being President is as close as he can get to them.

He's just wearing the ear piece to fit in, be part of the team... poor guy... give him a break...
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ChePibe spoke on Oct 07, 2004 at 06:12 PM
Is it possible he was speaking to someone that was not heard on the audio? An audience member, perhaps?

I haven't looked at the video (Real Player is the spawn of satan, and that's the only format I saw it in), but that's a possibility.

Does anyone have a link to the video in another format, something that hasn't been too "edited"? I'd like to look at it.
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MajicWalrus spoke on Oct 08, 2004 at 02:58 PM
He also interrupted the moderator and Sen. Kerry to ask them if he could respond. Is that good procedure?
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AquaVelvet spoke on Oct 08, 2004 at 06:47 PM
Other media outets are picking up this story as well. Salon ran a big piece [link] on it just today. And, because this is a Webbed world, the topic even has it's own blog. [link] An exerpt: (the original text includes links to other mostly lefty-leaning sites which provide more grist for their claims)

"Television viewers have sometimes heard another voice speaking Bush's words before he says them. When Bush spoke at D-Day ceremonies in France last June, for example, viewers watching on CNN, Fox and MSNBC, including mediachannel.org's Danny Schechter, were startled to hear another voice speaking Bush's words as if to prompt him. Some said this continued into a q & a. And on the night of 9/11, when Bush appeared on television to address the nation, viewers of one television station in Quincy, Massachusetts heard another voice speaking, slowly and carefully, a few words at a time -- words which were then recited by the president. The voice was nondescript, male, definitely not the president's voice..."
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Reverend Jynxed spoke on Oct 08, 2004 at 07:03 PM
For a real debate yes it is polite. This however was the strangest "Debate" I have ever seen.

I hope the future debates don't end up going with such a format.
MajicWalrus's Avatar .
MajicWalrus spoke on Oct 08, 2004 at 11:50 PM
Yeah I hope so too. They were rather odd, the veep debates especially.
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bapow1 spoke on Oct 10, 2004 at 10:37 AM
I'm skeptical that it was a reciever, it's size is rather large. Although if they wanted to keep the RF communications hidden, larger receiver would be necessary. It's placement is very strange also. There are much better places on the body to hide such a device.

Maybe it was something like this [link] .

Maybe is was THIS [link] .

Maybe this is how God talks to George in the white house...a God receiver.
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holyjuan spoke on Oct 11, 2004 at 09:45 PM
I'm with Rev on this one.

In no way shape or form was this a "debate."

We could get down to the nitty grtitty of what a debate is, but even the most watered down definition doesn't come close to this.

At least with a real debate, you are awarded real points and someone is the winner.
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ChePibe spoke on Oct 11, 2004 at 10:47 PM
I'm with Rev on this one.

And, suddenly, the earth exploded...
holyjuan's Avatar .
holyjuan spoke on Oct 11, 2004 at 10:52 PM
You know Rev and I are the same person... check our IPs.
ChePibe's Avatar .
ChePibe spoke on Oct 11, 2004 at 11:22 PM
Are you sure you just aren't one of his D&D characters?
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holyjuan spoke on Oct 12, 2004 at 07:20 AM
There's absolutely nothing wrong with D&D. I used to play and had a lot of fun doing so.

We could poke fun at your hobbies, but I don't think polygamy or riding a bike around the states bothing people are hobbies.
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MajicWalrus spoke on Oct 12, 2004 at 08:53 AM
The key word is "used"

You used to play D&D, I think ChePibe was commenting not on D&D itself but the practices of 42 year old unemployed men playing D&D.
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holyjuan spoke on Oct 12, 2004 at 09:06 AM
Hey.. if i had the opportunity to play D&D I would. Takes a lot more creative skill than a First person shooter. You actually have human contact rather than electronic false relationships.
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ChePibe spoke on Oct 12, 2004 at 07:14 PM
I work on the stupid things all day... all day... so many... annoying customers... and never-ending papers....

When it comes down to actual entertainment, I get out and GO OUTSIDE. I will say that D&D is probably better than an obsessive video game attachment - it at least allows for and encourages interaction with live human beings.

I had some customer the other day go entirely nuts after he found out he couldn't install Counter-Strike on our lab machines. It was like watching a guy go through all of the symptoms of withdrawal in one agonizing moment. He just kept saying, "but you could last weekend!" (we've since installed patches that prevent things like that from being installed for various software-related reasons). He then practically begged me to log in as an administrator (certainly not allowed) and do it for him. It was so sad.

All I could think was, "dude, it's a Saturday, and it's beautiful outside. Get OUT of this cave of a computer lab and GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING."

My hobby to be mocked for the moment - photography. I go out, and I take random shots of things around town and campus in an attempt to be somewhat artistic, but mostly just to get ready to travel to Paris. It's fun, it gets me out, and I like it, so long as it isn't raining.

Of course, right now, I'm putting off getting ready for a computer-related training class on Excel I have to teach tonight. The irony.
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LordXyrtex spoke on Oct 12, 2004 at 07:40 PM
Even though I'm a hard-core computer geek, I still love the outdoors myself. I'd take a good game of football or baseball over sitting inside playing it or and FPS on my computer. Still love videogames, but its nice to go outside and enjoy the outdoors.
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LordXyrtex spoke on Oct 12, 2004 at 07:44 PM
A God receiver.... hehehe...
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KingKipper spoke on Oct 13, 2004 at 07:00 PM
Also [link] makes an intresting read
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Anonymous Coward spoke on Oct 16, 2004 at 06:17 PM
it was a pen, jackass. everyone knows that.
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Grizzly spoke on Oct 17, 2004 at 09:07 AM
Probably 'cause he needed to pause and collect his thoughts every 3 words.
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Grizzly spoke on Oct 17, 2004 at 09:13 AM
Cheney doesn't need an ear piece for his puppet, he needs strings. :)
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holyjuan spoke on Oct 17, 2004 at 10:31 AM
Ba Zing....... good one Grizzly.

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