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Posted by bapow1 on Sep 09, 2004 at 08:13 AM
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squee spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 10:16 AM
The system does need a change...to metric. There would be fewer embarrasing and costly mistakes if american scientists didn't have to make all those conversions all the time. it seems silly to stick it out against the world's convention, especially when its so much easier to calculate measurements in metric anyway.
Anonymous Coward spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 01:32 PM
and so is any space related program. first, we can't independently survive in space for extended periods because of environmental stress, second, propulsion accessable space is a wasteland of useless raw materials, third, distances are so vast that most of what we can see beyond our own solar system has taken place millions of years ago.if all the money used by nasa was diverted to physics research there would be no need for bullshit rockets and expoloding space-shuttles, we'd have gravity generators and interdimensional transportation by now.
holyjuan spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 02:04 PM
We could also use some of that money to purchase some proper puncuation and capital letters for your post.
MajicWalrus spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 02:59 PM
Have you ever invented interdimensioanl transit? How about something that simulates mass so it have great gravity? No. You know virutally nothing about the developments you claim that physics research would do. How can you be so confident?
MajicWalrus spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 03:01 PM
I still say that NASA needs more money. We went from sending rockets to space to walking on the moon in a mere decade. Imagine what we could do if we had that kind of funding now.
holyjuan spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 03:24 PM
We do have that funding now. Do you know how much the International Spacestation cost? About 100 Billion. The Apollo missions cost 1/4 of that. I'm not sure how much the US put in for the ISS, but I do know that it was about 20BILLION over budget.Should have put a base on the moon.
Anonymous Coward spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 03:59 PM
sorry, i didn't realize that you were a physicist. and it looks like we have some kind of english teacher above? even if such advances in physics were not possible, that still doesn't explain away the billions of dollars that are wasted on the exploration of a vacuum. nasa space pen r&d = $250,000 | russia #2 pencil = $0.25 you do the math. hey, it's your tax money.
luistehnerd spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 04:55 PM
NASA has developed brilliant ideas before that all have benifited the military and various fields, such as the development of eletromagnetic propulsion(rail gun tech.) which i wouldnt mind seeing in the military :D
luistehnerd spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 04:55 PM
NASA has developed brilliant ideas before that all have benifited the military and various fields, such as the development of eletromagnetic propulsion(rail gun tech.) which i wouldnt mind seeing in the military :D
MajicWalrus spoke on Sep 09, 2004 at 05:16 PM
Yes, we should've put a base on the moon. Although 100 billion seems like a lot, and I seem like I bash a war in Iraq alot, it cost about 89 billion to go there. Also you didn't factor in the fact that forty years ago 25 billion was a lot more than it is today.
Reverend Jynxed spoke on Sep 10, 2004 at 06:25 PM
Woah, is this that new math crap they started teaching the speds? PastTime + Money > CurrentTime + Money? Uhm no...25 Billion is still 25 Billion now. It wasn't more or less, it was the same. The amount never changed. Therefore is wasn't a "lot more." So I don't believe there is a need to factor that little bit in because it isn't true.
Yes I know what you were trying to say. Yes I'm being a dick. Why? Because if you are going to jump someone's shit you should at least get all your shit in order first so it can't come back and bite you in the ass later ;)
When you leave a hole like this, it leaves openings for others to start tossing in red herrings to move the argument in a different direction to avoid having to answer for the comment you are challenging them with.
You have much to learn young padwan.
Reverend Jynxed spoke on Sep 10, 2004 at 06:26 PM
Fuck the military, I want a rail gun for home defense.
bapow1 spoke on Sep 11, 2004 at 03:36 PM
You are digging on this one. I think he left out the word "worth." I suspect you are smart enough to see this and that his statement was in regards to the value of the 25 billion and not just the number of dollars.Did you move to Louisiana?
Reverend Jynxed spoke on Sep 13, 2004 at 06:54 PM
Haven't moved yet. Still have another half a year of school. I'll be done in March.As for the post, yep I know what he meant. That is why I clarified and pointed out the error in trying to bitch at someone without having all their t's crossed.
And even so, the dollar was worth the same amount. However the price of thing or rather what that almighty dollar could buy back then was different. A buck is worth a buck no matter the time ;)
bapow1 spoke on Sep 15, 2004 at 09:33 AM
You made me think with this one Rev. I think you are both right. Let's say I worked my ass off for one dollar. I could goto the store and buy a 20 oz coke with that. Or I jump 40 years ahead. Assuming the dollars still looked the same I could easy exchange that dollar for another dollar with someone else and neither of us would be at a loss. My 2004 dollar exchanges 1:1 with the 2044 dollar--rev you are speaking of worth. However when I went into the store the soda would now be some arbirarily higher cost and I would no longer be able to afford it--MW is speaking of value.
You are both right.
bapow1 spoke on Sep 15, 2004 at 09:33 AM
You made me think with this one Rev. I think you are both right. Let's say I worked my ass off for one dollar. I could goto the store and buy a 20 oz coke with that. Or I jump 40 years ahead. Assuming the dollars still looked the same I could easy exchange that dollar for another dollar with someone else and neither of us would be at a loss. My 2004 dollar exchanges 1:1 with the 2044 dollar--rev you are speaking of worth. However when I went into the store the soda would now be some arbitrarily higher cost and I would no longer be able to afford it--MW is speaking of value.
You are both right.
