This may have something to do with Subway Sandwhiches being $8 fucking dollars and the Big Mac being 99 cents!!

We've had this discussion before....although I do believe that you said poor people have no other choice than to buy more expensive fast food. In any case, it would seem you're saying that being poor creates a genetic disposition towards being fat. I'd like to then ask, how exactley do they LOSE the gene if they gain socioeconomic status? Cause....I wasn't aware genes could just change all nimbly-bimbly like.

I wouldn't go so far as to attribute lifestyle to being fat unless you are talking about someone who doesn't go out and get exercise, or all they do is sit around in front of the TV.

There are way too many variables involved. I do believe your metabolism has a lot to do with it

There are people who HAVE money but still eat like crap. So lifestyle doesn't necessarily apply.

I eat like crap a lot but I don't pack on the pounds. This could be attributed to a high metabolism or it could just be I have a very efficient system (there are times when I hardly eat at all and still have tons of energy/fuel.) Lifestyle doesn't have an effect.

Now take a look at bums. Dumpster diving... they eat what they can. I wouldn't consider these square meals and many are from fatty places and fast food restaurants. I don't recall the last fat bum I have seen.... wait yes I do. I remember ONE. I don't think a lazy ass lifestyle always contributes to it.

Basically what I'm saying is that unless someone has a thyroid problem, overeats, doesn't get off their lazy ass, etc. they shouldn't be "fat." Now when I say fat I mean FAT. We're talking overweight, out of the normal range, chunky ass like HP's momma kind of fat.

It's hardly scientific to say poor people tend to be fat because they eat fried chicken, corn bread, bbq, and grits. Rich people eating the same crap will make them fat.

Self control and moderation along with exercise will keep you in the right weight category.

So chalk this one up as I disagree with the speculations made. People are making too broad of a generalization. The wealth of a person does NOT have to do with how fat they are. there are rich fat slobs as well.

I also have to add if poor people are so fat, why are somalians, ethiopians, etc. all skinny? Even the ones that eat who aren't rich by any standard are thin. Do they just lack the fat genes?

See the irrational arguments that can be made to counter the irrational statements made by people who generalize too much?

You arent educated enought to even comment on this story so ge t teh steppin bitch!

"I don't recall the last fat bum I have seen.... wait yes I do. I remember ONE."

Thats not a very nice way to describe your hunnymoon!!!

I don't believe they buy fast food because it's all they can afford-- There are plenty of cheap eats you can buy at the supermarket. I believe they eat fast food because they don't know any better. They probably didn't learn much about nutrition in school. I can't tell you how many times I've seen some porker of a welfare momma on the subway stuffing her face with Popeye's and White Castles.
I remember a few months ago there was a story here in NY about the mothers of fat kids suing McDonald's and other companies for misrepresenting the nutritional value of their foods. The one said she fed her kid Big Mac's every day because she thought they were healthy. Why did she think they were healthy? Because they had lettuce on them.
How stupid can you get?

You might consider saving your trolling for the gay teen chatrooms you frequent so often under the username "bottomboyWA16".

Just wait Rev; another few years of being a security guard at Toys-R-Us and you'll fit in with all the other pot-bellied, trailer-dwelling white trash that share your socioeconomic status...

And tell your wife that if she doesn't stop calling me, I'm getting a restraining order.

Here I was trying to be civil but a buttslut had to open their pie hole.

The bum was in Hawaii. He was standing on the side of the road pants around his ankles pissing in the direction of traffic. This individual, if you scrubbed off several layers of filth would still have a darker skin tone reminiscient of a Hawaiian/polynesian. Hence, it is impossible for that to have been my wife. That along with the fact that unlike you I prefer women would also point to the impossibility of mistaking your daddy for my wife. Just because you take it in the ass doesn't mean everyone else here does.

You are a completely clueless shit eating guttersnipe. Pull the sand fleas out of your cunt and get over your issues.

If you can't handle having another opinion on a matter shut the fuck up and stop posting. You were rebuted and given reasons why I disagreed with you. I'm sorry you can't think for yourself and have to be spoonfed all your information. Try being a bit more selective next time. Common sense would rule out the observations made in this "study."

Don't you have a camel to blow? Run along, pick the sand out of your clit, and learn to think for yourself.

How exactly was I trolling? I responded to an opinion and I gave reasons why. I'm still waiting for a rebuttal that backs up the other point of view or something that makes my observations erroneous.

Are you perhaps refering to my analogy? Well if she isn't fat you can try and disprove it by posting a pic. :D Please make sure you post a pic with her clothes on because we don't want to go blind. While rhogging may be your idea of fun, others have more refined tastes ;)

Considering you have seen someone in a gay chatroom named "bottomboywa16" you are only reconfirming the fact that you like to cruise for cock. Then again perhaps that is just where your father was and you desperately needed to get ahold of him because he was shirking your needs...

Now in seriousness. I truly wish my metabolism would slow down enough for me to put on some pounds. I really have to put it away and load up on certains things to keep the weight on. All the eating gets tiring. People keep saying wait until I'm 30 but I'm already pretty close. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

So stupidy leads to being a fatty?

I'll go with that :D

Holy shit, I have to agree with the Rev.

I think that the poor people were upset that Fat Free foods aren't free.

You are right I did say that. Anyway it is related in a way.

Genes for anything can be present in anyone - however - to express those genes there has to be a trigger - a good trigger can be puberty - when the bodies hormones and functions go into a chaotic spin. Other triggers can help express these non-functioning, but present, genes.
If people are poor and have the gene present in their bodies they are more likely to express those genes than their more financially well off counterparts.

Thats the best thing I heard all day!

The straight dope has an article about metabolism rates and how, in fact, there is no such thing as a "high metabolism". You just have fewer muscle and fat cells, you ectomorph. [link]

You stupid troll. Obviously you are tring to antagonise me into some argument that a anon coward made, directed towards you. However, I do not care since you will live and die a menial, societal slave.

By the way, Hollowpoint and your wife were in the latest of "Priceless" ads - I just happen to have the transcript of those ads - the pics have yet to develop.

Fucking Rev's sister: 10 dollars
Fucking Rev's wife: -500 "dollah"
Revs face when he finds his blow-up wife blowing HP : PRICELESS

:D lol

I believe I would be the expert on fat OR skinny white trash living in trailers. I live in Union county which Ricky may or may not have had the honor of passing through. Over half the population lives in trailers, the two majors employers are the prison and the trucking companies. My parents run the local white trash bar. I've seen the locals, they are poor, and they do have the tendency of being fat. As a matter of fact they are either too skinny or too fat, but most are fat. Yeah, I worked at the high school and I was surprised to see I was in better shape than most of the teenage girls, who were like 12 years younger than me. And yes they eat at hardees all the time, cause you can get two burgers for two bucks and they eat chips, and candy and and other assorted cheap junkfood items. The too skinny ones are usually on crack or speed. Yes, they are exactly like how you imagine them, thick accents, slow speech, 80's hairstyles, clothes that only a hick could fashion together...they drink beer until they fall over, shoot at one another and have public pbattles with their spouses, children or other family members, which could be anyone, because they are all kin to one another. HEY, but we aren't all like that, I live here.......um, don't spread that around.

I doubt the validity of that site. It seems to me that the medical community aggrees on the existence of metabolism. Also, in response to your earlier post; I think your argument would revolve around everyone having 'fat genes' and only impoverishing conditions 'triggering' them. Why then, is obesity such a problem in the USA versus, say....Italy? I think it revolves around the sloth and glutony (although I am not a religious man) that our society propagates on.

So you're telling me that when you, or anyone else, buys the five for five at Arby's, you have to eat ALL five in one sitting? That's bullshit. You don't have to eat all your food at once, and if you're concerned about wasting any of it......SAVE IT. The problem with our country is that we prioritize quantity over quality. Do not gorge yourself until you're overly full. In fact, if you save room perhaps the next meal might taste even better.
As for the socio-economic status as it relates to obesity.....I think perhaps a better correlation would be to job type. You say that many people in your area are employed by the trucking industry? Hmmmm, I could've sworn they got plenty of fresh air and exercise.

If it isn't you, all you have to do is simply say so.

Looks like you probably were the one to troll for the reaction. Well you got it. Live with it.

Camel sucking little twit, when will you learn? If you didn't care you wouldn't get so worked up about it. Poor baby, cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it.

The "AC's" post followed your posting structure. It isn't my fault you are so easy to spot. Stick to posting with your acount rather than trying to troll anonymously.

Alright, if you want to be ass about it, when I was just joking around. No one said they "HAD" to eat anything, I just said they did eat that. That's what they eat, does it occur to you to check that one fast food hamburger can have as much as 35 grams of fat? Everyone knows that you can go to subway and get a six inch sub with less than 6 grams of fat, but can you get two for two dollars? HELL NO! Let's add this on top of the fact that the one grocery store in town has no competition, so their prices are sky high. Incidentally, before you get to talking about truckers, lets remember who lives in the trucking town, ME! My parents own a bar AND a trucking company, truckers have way more time on their hands then you think, they just tend to be lazy as hell. I should know before they made a company my father drove for Pritchett Trucking for 20 years. Granted I remember being so poor that we ate the same pot of beans every night for I don't know how long and my parents had seen worse times before that, that is TRULY poor. I however was not discussing the rigors of the destitute populace. I was talking about regular "lower class" people, the ones who don't have much money but enough that aren't going to eat one of the dogs under their porch. In any case, I didn't want to make a case out of it since I WAS ONLY joking around. A lot people here are fat, most are under the poverty level and are under educated, their daily activities include drinking and screwing, they don't take time from their busy schedules to exercise, they fry everything, which is incidentally and fairly cheap way to prepare food, they eat out, they don't take parenting classes and will let their kids eat anything they want, they grow up thinking it's perfectly OK to smoke when they are 10 drink when they are 13, screw around at 15, drop out of school and go to work for the prison or get into the prison. None of them cares if they are fat, none of them wants to diet, they don't think beyond the next day most of the time. I don't think it has anything to do with jobs so much as it has to do with upbringing and choice to work hard enough to do better. You shouldn't take yourself so seriously all the time. I didn't state a reason I only stated an observation. NOW you have one of my opinions, a possibility that had crossed my mind in the 27 years I've lived among what most of the US calls trailer trash. I'm trying to help the people I live near , I volunteer my time and I encourage the youths to read, find out about the world, take care of themselves, strive hard for their goals. What are you doing besides attacking me for no reason and talking out your ass.

Showing your ignorance yet again.

I would still be able to put on bulk through proteins. Fat isn't the only way to gain weight fucktard. Consider also that is is possible to put on some weight yet hard to keep it on without keepign up a really high intake. Technically being limited in the cell area I wouldn't be able to add anymore (if you really think having less has anything to do with it.)

From the site: "illness aside, you may have poor eating habits or an excessively frantic lifestyle--stress tends to increase the metabolic rate."

Hrmmm what they are saying is that metabolism CAN vary. If it can be "increased" due to stress, then that would be a "faster" metabolism than those who didn't have the same stress correct?

I burn food like it's going out of style.

Feel free to talk to doctors about matabolism and how you think it is a myth.

The guy seems like he is making up excuses and double talking his way into sounding like he knows more than doctors (who have PhD's) do.

Just as muscle cells can be added (and subtracted through your body digesting itself) so can fat cells. They need to come from somewhere. If you do not put in MORE food than your body can use you won't add on any weight.

Why do you think folks count calories? They do this so they can make sure they don't overfeed what THEIR body can handle.

The source for your "(mis)information" is quite laughable in how it basically contradicts itself while ignoring common medical/nutritional knowledge.

We'll still keep you around. You make a great mascot. Everyone loves the little retarded animals.

If I may...

I think the point is we shouldn't classify fat people to any specific social or economic group. There are fat people in all categories just as there are skinny ones.

The only thing fat folks have in common are perhaps lack of brain cells when it comes to eating right or forcing their legs to lift them off the couch and run around a while. (Yes it is a generalization and we know I can get into specifics but we all know you all don't want that :D )

/helps pull Linsey's panties out of her ass.

Regarding subway. Uhm you can get some pretty fatty items there too. Just like you can get healthy stuff at McDonalds (salads.) I always get a really fatty spicy italian. So the cost being too much isn't an issue as you can find cheap healthy stuff.

That still leaves us with the quesiton of what it is in a poor life that triggers the gene. Is it the fact that they eat less healthy food? Is it because they could be less likely to get excersize as kids? (Based on the presumption that poor kids can't be spared the fees for entry and equipment in Little League or what have you, but I don't know if it's an issue.) Is it because they aren't as distracted by things like studying or going to movies? (Anothing presumption, which leads one to ask why poor kids do worse in school.)

Trying to pinpoint exactly what it is seems to be the most sensible next step in all of this, and would have the bonus of determining a cause of obesity in general. C'mon scientists, get on it!

Thanks I needed a good panty pulling :D I agree fat can go anywhere, but my sisters and I were discussing the fact that there are a lot of fat people around here. hmmm

No doubt about it... where you find lack or braincells due to drinking you'll also find big 'ole bellies.

Drinking can be a double whammy. It makes stupid people retarded. We already know lack of knowledge leads to poor nutrition but when you don't care how stupid you are that is a big problem.

If you are going ot get stupid stick to hard liquor. More bang for the buck and not as many calories :D

Any time you need a panty pull let me know. I won't let my fingers wander too far ;)

The way I reverse letters when I type you'd think I was allowed to get drunk at work :D

Sadly this isn't the case. I just need to learn to slow down.

Wonder if they would mind if I sparked up a fatty... I'll have to ask and see :D

I'm not going to bitch about anybody's typing. I type in run on sentences and when I get too far ahead of myself I'll leave out whole words and sentences. That and I'm just a generally bad typist anyway. Oh and I'm drunk. J/k I don't drink, I see enough drunk, to get the idea.

i like big buts an i can not lie you utha bruthas cant deny when a girl walks in wit a ity bity waste an a round thing in your face!!!!

I do not see how you can "analyse" people's posting structures. As for the content on that post; - it is generally an accepted fact that you are uneducated, leading to your inferiority complex and thus your agressiveness (my bad I mean "assertiveness"). But thats ok, people like you are needed to do this worlds dirty work - perhaps you can move up the ladder by, instead of being a janitor and a blowup church, a janitor at dunkin donuts or something.

Thank you reverend for providing a service to the community. :)

You get SPRUNG!
*BoIiIiInG*

Mix-a-Lot is da man. He lives out here in the Seattle area :D

Take a look at people's posting styles. Everyone has a particular style which could be copied but generally isn't.

Take the way they structure their sentences, or perhaps the way people emphasize words or use elipses... it all leads to a particular style.

As for the accepted "fact" that is libel. I have had an education. I can prove it, you can't prove otherwise.

I would take a janitor job because it pays more but I wouldn't want to clean up after people like you who are constantly shitting themselves.

Always glad to be of service.

OR... they could just be so dumb that they can't see the relationship between scarfing junk food like there's no tomorrow and abruptly 'expressing an obesity gene.'

Not that I'm sick of whiny fat people who eat too much and look for excuses to lay their weak self-control on.

This is a more in-depth piece on this study. [link] It's authors say that even when poor kids eat the same diet as rich ones, the poor kids will still be fatter. It then delves into the vicious cycle of bad genes and poor health having a higher concentration in poverty-stricken families, which if you read Hoochie's link, you already know.

Funny there was one on fark saying the same thing but it was because of "stress" related to being poor. Wait... that is the one I got from fark.

Again it isn't being rich or poor, rish people have stress too. Stressed rich people can be fat too.

They are being too general. They are throwing reasons out there that can be applied to anyone. Granted when you are poor you may be stressed more, but the fact that you are poor isn't the reason you are fat.

When it comes to poverty I'm more apt to believe poor folks are very skinny with bloated/distended bellies. Millions of Africans can't be wrong.

The whole poor=fat doesn't work. Sure you may find more of the qualities of fat people in poor folks but socio-economic status doesn't have much to do with it. All the inbreeding might, but the being poor doesn't :)

All in all the statment you make having a higher concentration speaks volumes. It isn't saying poor = fat. They are just able to find more people with the things that make people fat in that class.

You could be poor as dirt but still live a very happy life without all the weight. How many fat Indians (as in India not the Native Americans) do you know?

There seem to be too many variables or subjects out there that defy the notion for me to be convinced by this.

I'll stick with these excuses: they are stupid, undisciplined, or just like to eat.

I second that. Poor education (self induced or otherwise) can lead to all kind of health problems. I also think that their is a world of difference between a truly starving person (such as in africa) and people of lower socio-economic status here in the US. Usually, someone will find someway to make sure you are fed here, we are very lucky.

Looks at my poor grammar...*bows head is shame* One day I will learn to pay attention to what I am typing.