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The Democratic Special Ed Class of 2004
Posted by burn2shine on Jul 16, 2003 at 01:05 PM

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IndigoShaper's Avatar .
IndigoShaper spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 01:16 PM
Well you have made a good attempt and this analysis. However, my opinions are:

Yes
Yes
No
No
Maybe
Who knows?
Who cares?
WTF?

That about sums it up.

/not in the US
Reverend Jynxed's Avatar .
Reverend Jynxed spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 01:16 PM
Thankfully affirmative action isn't a mandate in the Oval office or we would have this man:

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running the country.
RickySilk's Avatar .
RickySilk spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 01:53 PM
I'm thinking Kerry/Clark in 2004. That's a combo I could feel good about. I'm a fan of Clark.

Interesting info.
[link] (I doubt he'll run for president, but info is here)
[link] (this one is good)
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SurrealStatic's Avatar .
SurrealStatic spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 02:32 PM
Just have to say, if Graham wins the primary, I would vote for him over Bush. I remember when he was Gov. of Fl. Good man. Better then Bush in my opinion. But I doubt he will make it through the primary...

As for your look at Lieberman, when I took the 2004 election selector, I got 96% Lieberman, 92% Bush right behind him :-p They must be on the same side on alot of issues. But I wouldnt vote for Lieberman....
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crazydiamond spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 03:51 PM
See, my attention was always focused towards Kerry. I did a report on him for government class last year and learned quite a bit about the guy and it all points to candidacy. But nobody listened to old Jaime. I also said the Bucs were gonna win the Super Bowl. And again, nobody listened. Well you guys can just ... go on living your lives like normal. And make fun of me some more.

Time to pull out the ether I put with the other illicit drugs in the back of the car for emergencies.
Hollowpoint's Avatar .
Hollowpoint spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 04:30 PM
Did your report include the fact that he's never had a real job in his life and is currently mooching off his rich wife? Yeah, he'll really connect with the voters.

Things are looking pretty good for Bush right now. The way he set up the tax cut was brilliant- it expires in 2004, so his critics will have to go on record saying they support a tax increase. Ask Mr. Dukakis how well that works.
BadKitty's Avatar .
BadKitty spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 04:35 PM
Dukakis?
burn2shine's Avatar .
burn2shine spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 04:40 PM
From JohnKerry.com: [link]
"As a top prosecutor in Middlesex County, Kerry took on organized crime and put the Number Two mob boss in New England behind bars. He modernized the District Attorney's office, creating an innovative rape crisis crime unit, and as a lawyer in private practice he worked long and hard to prove the innocence of a man wrongly given a life sentence for a murder he did not commit."

Yeah, you know, lawyer and prosecutor and District Attorney...none of those are "real jobs"

As for Bush's tax cut, woopty doo. Let's see him dig out of the $450 billion budget deficit first .
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So Hollow, are you an idiot or do you just play one on TV?
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Anonymous Coward spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 05:02 PM
OK, my mistake- I had my liberals confused there- while he had some "real jobs" in the past, most of his wealth came from marrying rich women and sponging off them... I'm guessing he doesn't mention that on his web site though.

While you, as most simple minded liberals b2s, are eager to blame Bush for the economy, deficit, the weather and anything else not to your liking, the facts show differently. Approximately 25% of the deficit is due to spending related to Iraq and 9/11. The rest is due to an economy that was in decline BEFORE Bush took office. 9/11 obviously delayed any hope of recovery.

Before Clinton took office, the economy was improving. Before he left, it was in decline... so you blame Bush? Who's the idiot now?
Hollowpoint's Avatar .
Hollowpoint spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 05:09 PM
Micheal Dukakis, former Mass. Governor, ran against Bush Sr in the '88 election. Much like today, there was a deficit and the economy wasn't the greatest.

While Bush campaigned on his "Read my lips, no new taxes" statement (which he later didn't follow through on), Dukakis in a debate admitted that he would raise taxes... and got slaughtered in the election.
burn2shine's Avatar .
burn2shine spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 05:14 PM
Kerry married Heinz in 1995. That was AFTER serving three terms that he paid for himself. His first wife died of cancer, so I wouldn't rush to be such a ghoul. Get your facts straight or go home.

While its true that the economy was in decline even before Clinton left office, Bush has done absolutely nothing to fix it. Yes, 9/11 couldn't be planned for but Iraq could. We didn't need to go in, and that whole clusterfuck is becoming more and more a drain on finances every day. It is costing us $3.9 billion a month to stay there, and they are anticipating another 4 years in Iraq...that's certainly not going to help things now is it? I'm not saying that the economy is all Bush's fault, only that his tax cuts (like the ones he did before) have shown no progress whatsoever, with interest rates close to being cut again and unemployment still on the rise. It's Reaganomics, given a different spin.

Geez Hollowpoint, so quick to make blanket statements. Those are tough words, coming from a guy who can't beat Jynxed in an argument...
BadKitty's Avatar .
BadKitty spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 05:45 PM
thanks for the clarification
Hollowpoint's Avatar .
Hollowpoint spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 06:09 PM
First off, I spanked the Reverend in that argument- he just wouldn't admit it :)

Second, the whole point about Kerry is that he's going to have a difficult (nearly impossible) time identifying with the voters- east coast liberal / lawyer who married into money rather than making it himself.

Third, while I'm glad that your on the record agreeing that the economy isn't all Bush's fault, you have unrealistic expectations. NOTHING a President can do can turn the economy around on a dime; the tax cuts just recently went into effect. One thing we do know- taxes are a drain on the economy and reducing them is one of the few ways (along with reducing barriers to free trade and excessive regulation) that the government is able to help heal the economy.

Fourth, I'm not one of the idiots who thinks that Saddam was responsible for 9/11, but IF taking out his regime reduces our chances of another attack by making other countries think twice about supporting terrorists it will be worth it. No question the war is expensive, but not so expensive as another terrorist attack.

Bottom line: While it is difficult for a President to win an election during difficult economic times (ask Bush Sr or Carter), most Americans are smart enough to know that Bush isn't to blame and that things will improve... in small part because of the tax cuts.
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Anonymous Coward spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 06:13 PM
You know Burn I'm not sure wether to laugh my ass off or start cussing you out.

Hell I'll do both... Hahahahahaha cum chugging cunt hahahahahaha.

Seriously though it isn't hard to beat his arguments. After all YOU are doing the arguing and winning and I have no problem winning against you so it stands to reason... :D
Reverend Jynxed's Avatar .
Reverend Jynxed spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 06:14 PM
Er, that was me by the way...
Hollowpoint's Avatar .
Hollowpoint spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 06:33 PM
How would you know whether it's hard to beat me in an argument- you certainly couldn't.
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Anonymous Coward spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 06:49 PM
I did and I can also beat Burn which you can't.

It really isn't as hard to figure out as you are making it out to be.
Hollowpoint's Avatar .
Hollowpoint spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 07:09 PM
Heinz wasn't his first rich wife; you're forgetting Julia Thorne- family worth 300 mil at the time he married her in 1970. They separated in 82, divorced in 88.

By the way, Julia didn't die of cancer, she's alive and has remarried, living in Montana.
Hollowpoint's Avatar .
Hollowpoint spoke on Jul 16, 2003 at 07:14 PM
What color is the sky in your world? Maybe you should read the exchange over- you were thoroughly beaten.

BTW, you should learn what "Ad Hominem" means before trying to use the term in an argument.

If I make a mistake or am wrong about something, I admit it (see above post). That's the difference between you and I, Reverend.
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Anonymous Coward spoke on Jul 17, 2003 at 09:11 AM
As someone who worked recently in economics I feel it only fair to point out HP's right about tax cuts having negligible effects near-term (not that you need a lot of help here HP). Clarification - as a general rule of thumb any change in fiscal policy from the White House won't noticeably show up in the economy for 18 months.
Reverend Jynxed's Avatar .
Reverend Jynxed spoke on Jul 17, 2003 at 12:06 PM
I guess you haven't read my other posts where I WAS in error and admitted it. Then again, I fully expect you to ignore the facts that stop your arguments dead in their tracks.

Example of Ad hominem (Argument against the man):

"I believe that abortion is morally wrong."
"Of course you would say that, you're a priest."
"What about the arguments I gave to support my position?"
"Those don't count. Like I said, you're a priest, so you have to say that abortion is wrong. Further, you are just a lackey to the Pope, so I can't believe what you say."

This is something you were doing. I presented facts but you chose to ignore them because "you were right and knew better"

Of course not ALL of the irrelevant arguments were directed at me but a few were.

The other types of arguments you chose to use were:
Ad Verecundiam (Argument from respect)
Chain of arguments
Contextomy
a litte improper transposition
Argumentum ad Ignorantiam (you would not present any evidence supporting your theory)
Ignoratio Elenchi

/me waves and bids you adieu
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Anonymous Coward spoke on Jul 23, 2003 at 10:15 AM
Al Sharpton. What a dickhead.
I got two words for Al Sharpton: Tawana Brawley.
I don't know how anyone can take this clown seriously after Tawana Brawley, never mind all his antics since.
RickySilk's Avatar .
RickySilk spoke on Jul 25, 2003 at 06:41 PM
I remembered the name but I had to look it up to remember. Here's the refresher. [link]
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RickySilk spoke on Jul 30, 2003 at 09:24 AM
Along the same lines as this.... a funny article at the onion. [link]
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Anonymous Coward spoke on Jul 31, 2003 at 05:16 AM
What if? and I say what if gentelmen and gentle women, a candidate were to emerge from within the senate walls. A late bloomer if you will, arrives to the stage and really speaks to the people. Someone eloquent and educated, someone energetic and BOLD.

I am waiting to see who this might be and if it would be Sen. Joe Biden.

Thoughts?
RickySilk's Avatar .
RickySilk spoke on Jul 31, 2003 at 08:59 AM
Don't know anything about him but my first reaction is... a little late to be getting into the mix isn't it?
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Anonymous Coward spoke on Jul 31, 2003 at 11:06 PM
yeah right when was the last time a senator won a national election... hmm... yeah let's see... must have been JFK...

the next president will not be a senator... it's a fact we all must accept... they just don't have the national appeal...
Reptile's Avatar .
Reptile spoke on Sep 19, 2003 at 11:22 AM
I hope Dean Howard dean wins he will probably win the Iowa primary and have lots of momentium in New Hampshire.

I like the fact that he's the youngest guy in the field of democrats running for president.

He also is seperate from the other democrats besides Clark who just entered.

I like where he stands on his issue's. He voted not to go to war on Iraq and most of the other candidates voted yes and are now criticizing on the war.

His state is the only one besides New Mexico without a Deficit and everybody has healthcare. In my book those are very good qualities. And if he could do that to every state then that would be a great thing for this country.

I think he's got the best chance of beating Bush. More and more people will believe in him and vote for him.

He went out on the road campaigning 10 cities in 4 days.No other candidate did that. The only thing that needs to leap from him to the top for good is talking about more issue's like gas prices, to pull more people in to his campaign, and He needs to travel to more places that the other candidates don't go to. Like the state's where the primaries are going to be held and all over the country. That will give him a edge

The former Governor of Vermont becomes the President.
choehyon's Avatar .
choehyon spoke on Dec 06, 2003 at 01:42 AM
If Dems. want even a chance at the White House , they have to get somebody that understands the average American guy (and lady).
I would contact a guy in Charlotte North Carolina , name : Jason Lewis.. He is on the radio there , and really understands America.
choehyon's Avatar .
choehyon spoke on Dec 06, 2003 at 01:45 AM
This Guy Scares Asians more than most , because of his MAO-like rhetoric.
choehyon's Avatar .
choehyon spoke on Dec 06, 2003 at 01:48 AM
Kom Sa Ham Ne Da. (Thank you George Washington).
choehyon's Avatar .
choehyon spoke on Dec 06, 2003 at 02:00 AM
Sorry Guys.
Just me again. The so called liberals that have evolved since 1988 , when I began my odyssey as an American , have become positively malevolent! Simple American ideals , like private property and personal freedoms are in short supply. I know that George W. Bush is , like his father , a world government flashiest. But he is the single most positive thing to happen to my new country since Ron Regan.
Let us come together on a few things. I , owe you nothing! You , Owe me nothing!!! The very best thing that any government can do for me and mine is : LEAVE US ALONE !!

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