Let's not forget that all this special investigating was instigated by a group of spiteful conservatives absolutely beside themselves that they had to give up the White House for 8 years. Can you say "witch hunt?"

What the Republicans don't realize is that 50 years from now, the only thing that will be remembered is the impeachment. All the previous Prez's that I can recall had some sort of personal problem, dating back to FDR.



As morally wrong as Clinton may have been, he DID lead the country through 8 years of a strong economy, no (major) conflicts and a greatly reduced debt. THAT is what Clinton will be remembered for, not for the BJ's.



And even the most right-wing Republican can't argue with that.

I agree, I'll take a 'playa' prez over a senile republic ass who has a penchant for supplying weapons to dictators and drug-lords.

We went from senile Ronny to Ex-head of the CIA and Oil Money man George Bush. Now we are presented with another oil man or Al Gore who is about as passionate as a bar of soap and spineless as gumby....he married Tippor Gore for god sake.

If the vote is between Al Gore and Geoge Bush I hope Al wins, but I am voting for Nader.

I would personally like to thank ken star for spending about 50 million dollars to find out clinton got a blow job. Hey lets save the country alot of money by making every politician disclose every sexual act they have while in office. This way we can save money to spend on really stupid things like education, getting out of debt, homeless people or un-employment. Oh and a big FUCK YOU to anyone who thinks clinton did a bad job as prez. Oh anther thing to the guy who wrote this letter, if clinton ate out his wife, would you want to know about it? Is this public knowledge since he is a public servant.

I can see that I'm in the minority here, but I really don't understand why everyone thinks that a president's responsibilites to his country are strictly political. As the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, it's Clinton's job not only to make reasonable, effective political choices (which he has), but to serve as a respectable figurehead when representing us to the rest of the world. No other president of any nation has recently created the embarrasing international media-circus that Clinton did. His actions make our entire country look ridiculous to the rest of the world. Any man given the amount of power that the president of the US gets must realize that his responsibilites are moral as well as political. He's an international role model whether he wants to be or not, and he certaintly hasn't acted accordingly.

Eww....I don't want to think about ANYONE eating out Hilary Clinton...gross.

Let me explain something to you. I'm from the old school, you understand. I'll treat you right. There ain't nothing in this world I wouldn't do for you, baby. You know what I'm saying?

When you and I go out to eat, I'm gonna pull out your chair for you to sit down. This is a classy maneuver that means I respect you and know how to treat you right. And during our dinner together I'm gonna be whispering in your ear a sweet stream of compliments regarding your exquisite beauty. "Baby," I'll say, "your lips are like a luscious, red ocean of desire. And my lips will be like a boat upon that ocean." And any other variety of compliment.

And when it comes down to making love, I'm going to touch your body like it's never been touched before. I will remove my hat upon your request, because that is the right thing to do. I will be remembered as the best lover in your life, because I treat my lover right. And when I'm making love to you, I will say, "Ooh, sugar... Yeah... Mmm... Mmm-Mmm... Damn..."

"You are mine," I will say with a warm smile. Then I will rub your feet for several hours in front of the fire while we listen to Keith Sweat.

When we go to the park, I will whisper to you, "My sweet baby, your eyes are like pearls and your hair is like moon beams." I will caress your hand. And I will then get on my knees in front of the park bench and say to you, "I am your man. I would do anything for you, baby. Anything at all." I will then present you with a beautiful diamond. This is how you will be treated, because you are my special one and only.

Baby, you look so good right now, I wanna get freaky with you right here on this table.

One night, you and I will take a romantic ride in a horse and carriage through town. That will be the night I will profess my love to you. "Baby, you got to me mine--forever in my life," I will say. Then I will take you home and feed oysters to you by candlelight, my sweet chocolate pudding. I will do this all night long. All night long.

You and I will take a bubble bath, and I will rub you from head to toe, every move slow and sophisticated. I will even remove my ring for the event. We will drink champagne in the bath tub until dawn, and I will sing to you, "You are the only one in my life / You are the one I dream of / My heart, my soul, my life is yours."

I would do anything for you. I will rub your body with exotic oils. I treat my baby right.

heres a third time where Burn2Shine said exactly what i was thinking... god when will i get to an article first?

Does anyone here have a real clue? Clinton's have NOT ONE thing to do with Children's healthcare. THAT IS THE INDIVIDUAL STATES SO QUIT THINKING CLINTON DID IT!!! Also what moron believes you need a council to investigate the CONSERVATIVES. The Democrats try hard enough to dig up dirt and the fact is we don't hide it better we just HAVE LESS SCANDALS. If the economy was good you better thank the 12 years of hard work from the REPUBLICANS on which Clinton rode the coat tails dah. Which in his last two years our economy went to shit while 1 million COUNT THAT AGAIN 1 MILLION Companies left the great US leaving millions without work and needing handouts just like the DEMOCRATS LIKE IT. You say economy and you haven't even a clue. How could he have done anything for the economy when he didn't do ONE THING FOR THE COUNTRY. What mindless whining of lies. LOL. Clinton was good for the Economy. OH REALLY WHERE IS THIS FACT OF PROOF. Name one BILL, ONE LAW< ONE LEGISLATION. QUIT GIVING STATES ACTS AS CLINTON VICTORIES> You have not one basis of fact only words with spins.

OOO!!! LOOK AT ME! I CAN YELL IN ALL CAPS!

Let's see...Clinton balanced the budget 3 years in a row (during his last term in office, which is something that can NOT be attributed to Republicans), he had a national surplus of BILLIONS of dollars two years straight, he helped drop unemployment to the lowest level since before the depression and the stock market was sailing along at the highest levels it has ever been at.

The last two items may not be completely due to Clinton's credit, but they certainly were not impeded by him. Which is more than we can say for Dubya, who has run the economy into the ground and created an all time high defecit.

Check your facts next time Freeper, and don't come to the adults table till you grow up a little bit. You've been warned...

Just a quick point: The book "Wag The Dog" was actually written about George H.W. Bush's presidency and Operation Desert Storm.

So it's kind of ironic that a freeper would reference it to insult Clinton. It's a semi-true story based on poppy Bush!

Back in 1988, I said to myself "Damn! That Hillary Clinton is the sexiest first lady ever!"

I'll tell you what- If Bill and Hillary don't have an open marriage, I'd be surprised. Who's business is it if they fuck other people on the side? If it were Hillary fucking the cabana boy, would anyone care?

What if the next President of the USA were a swinger? Would that be ANYBODY's buisiness but his and his wife's? What if Ron Jeremy became President? Would anybody give a rat's ass that the President has fucked thousands of women, and would fuck a thousand more while he was in office? Would anybody care that part of his "diplomatic summits" would involve fucking foreign dignitaries and getting porn starlets to fuck the leaders of other nations? Don't you think Saddam would have been a lot more managable if he had Ashylyn Gere suck his cock every once in a while? Don't you think Bin Laden would chill out if he only got to lay some pipe with Jenna Jameson? Would anybody CARE if ANY OTHER President besides Clinton were a total fuck-machine?

FUCK NO! The only people who care about this shit- about what happens in other people's sex lives- are the goddamn, self-righteous, Bible-thumping assholes in the fundamentalist religious right.

Tell ya what- I'm GLAD Bill got his cock sucked while he was in office. I want a President who's GETTIN' SOME! I want a President who's relaxed, happy, and not sexually frustrated. I want a President who has the self-confidence to pick up chicks easily.

I swear, you right-wing nutjobs don't know what you want. You don't want a GAY President. You don't want a FEMALE President. But when a President is as utterly male as Bill Clinton was, you all get upset that he's having straight sex with a grown woman! What the hell? Shit, Monica's no prize, but even *I* would let her suck my cock!

Of course, I'd fuck Hillary, too, but that's just me. Sex is no big thing, people. I'd rather have a sexually free President than some uptight monkey like Bush, who probably couldn't get a blowjob from a Tijuana whore... Or at least would try to pretend he wasn't enjoying it.

I agree with you. :)

You have hit the nail on the head, especially in your closing, but man some of the other things were a bit too opinionated. Let us proceed to my points with an attempt on my part to be unbiased and mearly a distributer of observations from which YOU can for you own opinions; the essance of politics. LIES and misdirection are the staple food of a typical politician, but there is the occational person (I say person instead of politician) who strives to make a positive difference. There are just so many other politicians in the governmental branches who don't give a rats rear about anyone but #1. The good politician is controled by the politicians. Guess whom else the politicians controle. The partys they represent. Okay so far I've been spouting BS that everyone already knows and doesn't care about because they're too buisy trying to make a halfway decant life for themselves to even begin to think about how one might get the ball rolling on solving some of these serious bugs in the political system. It's strange how our for fathers set up a beautiful governing system which could be updated in anticipation that they were not perfect. They couldn't possibly have thought of every possible senerio to be delt with so they made the constitution updatable. Then eventually, the updating stopped. Sometimes people need to be reminded of the existance of CHANGE. Lots of other people need to be reminded that the universe doesn't revolve around them, but that's another topic for another time. Way too many people (not that it's entirely their falt) are too ignorant about the issues and are more concerned about the office politics to try and sift through all the lies and misleadings and TRALER BILLS to waste their time doing the extensive research necessary to develope an educated opinion on which canidate should be rulling...I mean governing and what bill should be passed. So what do they do, they say, eh... I'll just vote for my party and what my partys canidate says to vote for. As a result of great minds trying to think alike and thus developing partys, they have inadvertantly promoted their own ignorance by MINDLESSLY aggreaing with the rest of the party. The concept of the party became a lost cause when all the lies and misleading occured and some canidate who fains to think like you and aspire to your concepts of a better future, only wishes to further his own carrear. (I use "his" as a gramatically correct term). Something that would be healing for the system and that I may not even see in my life time is the complete irradication of the party lables. Then people would be forced to vote for someone based one their merrits and not what party the canidate represents and/or how much carrisma they have when they campaign or debate. I would rather have someone who researches about the issue and thinks about the best solution representing me instead of who can think up the most crowd pleasing comment the fastest. Bustamontie, Shwartzineger, McClintock, Huffington. What did you think of when I said those names. Can you remember the flashes of hate you felt when you saw the names of certain canidates? Read the names again and take note of it this time, it's there. Doesn't it seem... like you don't know exactly why the hate's there. Sure you're saying "but they think this! and they support that! That's why I despise that canidate!", but are you really spouting hype from medias that (beleive it or not) are biased? Hummmm? This hate your feeling, which is fleeting and then quickly forgotten is not entirely towards the canidate, but the party "he" represents. Therefore your hate spills over from the party ideals to the canidate a little. Am I reminding anyone of a certain book yet that eerily coincides with this sub-problem I'm disscusing (I'm trying to point out observations, not give opinions, make your own oppinions darn it!)? I'm thinking of the book 1984. Or more specifically, a piece of it. Remember how in the book the world was devided into three occupations, and the propaganda that prevailed? How the facissast like leaders would have secions every day where everyone would have to go into the room and then a face would appear on the screen. Absolute hatred would fill every person in the room. They would say slander at the face, throw things at it, curse at it, and then the face dissapeared and just as quickly so did the hate in each person and they would leave the room having been re-taught to dispise this person, for what reasons they didn't REALLY know why except that he wasn't with their party. That's all they needed. I mentioned earlyer that I will probably never see the irradication of party classifications and that is so, for two reasons. One, we are a very 9 to 5 society, buisy, buisy, buisy. There is NO WAY we could find the time to properly vote. So we just stick with our own partys. Then our elected representitives sort of elect them selves and we vote for them. We end up getting cut out of the loop and they control everything according to their own best interests, dictated by the richest busniess comglomerate and their bribes of corse. So, reasons why party name erradication won't happen in my lifetime... #1: we're too buisy, we just vote for our party and hope for the best... #2: To get rid of party classifications would require a violation of our free speech rights, a constitutional FIRST amendment. Remember near the very beginning of this massive thing I'm writing I talked about how we kind of just stopped upgrading the constitution... Not only would we have to get over the hurtal of the all terrifying CHANGE to amend the constitution, we would get sent through a logic loop as well, realizing that any change of the free speech amendment would open pandoras box and justify the censorship of any other number of things quite easily and the government representatives would pass speech amendments without the majoritys (us) concent. They all demonstrated this with the pollution requirements for cars in California. I don't remember the facts exactly, but they completly gutted the bill, changed the wording completly, but kept the same name and bill number, and then passed it them selves at a stratiegic time where there was no outside interfearence allowed, all within the confinds of one night. It's too bad that they can only be that efficient when it affects them in their favor. So "non-party" names just can't exist. not anytime soon. So what does that leave us with, a broken system, where the "fix-it-guy" (us) is out to lunch and so it just stays broken? No. I refer back to the 1984 comparison. As long as we allow ourselves to BLINDLY follow our party canidates and hate anything else, all hope is lost for us and democracy and it should weep in dispare. This next thing I say with the benefite of the doubt that WE ARE SMARTER than we give ourselves credit for. The first thing that needs to be done is throw down your party sash and THINK FOR YOUR SELF. Put your objective thinking above all the "mud-slinging" between canidates and send a message that votes will no longer be made do to who can make someone else look the worst, but instead to who can make THEMSELVES look the best. We are no longer in kindergarden! The canidates need to grow up and stay focused on the issues. Do you know why this methed got adopted? Tell me, what do you constantly see on the news. Scandle, gossip, as our host put it "who's fucking who," ect. NEVER do you hear about the opening of a new soup kitchen, or a school music festivle, or a bake sale, or a local swim team victory, or the good things happening in Iraqu. Do you honestly believe the media as they tell you that only horrible things are happening there. That we are sending people there to die just because of oil!!! Do you honestly the rest of the world would stand by as we steal the worlds oil supply. Are you aware that the US has more than enough untapped viable oil fields to support itself? (by viable I mean not harmful to the environment). NOT ONE REPORT comes our way of the water pumps being restored so farmers can harvest their crops for the community, nothing about how people walked into the palaces of Saudan and colapsed weeping, for they saw the terrible waste of their HARD EARNED money. Americans don't know the meaning of the term "hard earned money." They colapsd weeping, seeing the grand palaces to big to concieve, built with their money, while they starved, their children grow up in dumps, their life consists of getting through the day, so that these useless palaces could be built in numbers that boggles the mind. You don't see the reports of the weddings, the market boom, the sudden freedom to speak without persecution, suddenly there was a news network not controled by Saudam, being run by eager college students and technical engeneers and guided by the US army. Nothing gets mentioned about the huge contributions being made by the US army to the literal reconstruction of Iraqu. That takes time. People have been asked if they wan't the US to leave, "yes" they say, "but first finish what you started, then leave!" Parafrase----->"If the US leaves now, the five other evils waiting to succeed Saudam will make things even worse than before." The US has opened a hole in flesh to remove a cancer, if we just leave now without stitching up the wound first, it will get infected with bacteria and the flesh will die. What Iraqu has is what's called a power vacume and the US army is trying to equailze the pressures CAREFULLY. You can't walk in and "wam bam thankyou mam" a government and expect it to not corrupt and self implode within two years of the US leaving. So with the "unbiased" media feeding our infant level, short attention spans with flashy gossip of "who's fucking who" and our "selfless, knowble" canidates slandering each other once again as a result of "our" materialistic ideals and short attention spans, we end up getting the short end of the stick. We're "too stupid" to really consider the issues so we'll just be told about scandulous naughty things instead. Michael Jackson ran for govener of California, just not the one we all know. That would have been way too easy for the media. Fish in a Barrel. Okay, I really need to sum this up now... So what it boils down to is the canidates just assume we're lazy enough to not research the issues, to nieve to not blindly hate the "Other" party, to stupid to be objective and actually listen to what the canidates are saying and not try and find out as quickly as possible what party the canidate is with, too set in our ways to change partys from year to year (filling in a circle with a pen), too short of attention span to care of nothing else but the flashy and scandlous and negative, too buisy with our lifes to listen to the talk shows on your way to work to at least try and get a truthful clue of what's what. Lots of these talk show hosts do extensive research on the subjects, IT'S THEIR JOB, too little presence of mind to not see elephants and donkeys. We're all just a bunch of really dumb, lazy, dumb, dumb, retards who need to be lead by the hand to the machine that takes our money and gives it to the politicians. You know monopolys don't just exist with corporations, they exist with controle too. So all in all, stop proving them right, stop being entertained by their two faced promises and show them that all along, they've only succeded in retarding our participation in the governing process and never succeded in amputating the represented (us) from the process of power distribution. Don't just show them you're smart once, make it permanent. As routeen as eating, beacuse you need to do both of those things to survive. I must take a break now, for I can only take so much politics at a time. Remember this if nothing else just said, pretend the party names don't exist, you might find yourself agreeing with a canadate of a party you considered an arch enemy, and you may also be disturbed by what you hear from your own party canadate. Here's to Peptobismal, the official sponser of politics! Peace, I'm out!

that was to long to read!

one... big... block... text... frying.... synapses...

that was a very painful read. try out paragraphs, i hear they're great this time of year.

How about a Summary 101 course too?! :P

You're right, I should have used paragraphs. I guess I got a bit carried away. Oh well, it was late when I wrote it. I was just trying to say that party names seem to be screwing us over.
Every comment before my huge text block clearly depicts that. Non of those people could seem to see past the word Democrat or Republican.

You're right, I should have used paragraphs. I guess I got a bit carried away. Oh well, it was late when I wrote it. I was just trying to say that party names seem to be screwing us over.
Every comment before my huge text block clearly depicts that. Non of those people could seem to see past the word Democrat or Republican.

Right on,man!

I am a 75 year old woman I love my Country very much and I listen to all the canidates who are running, dean scares me I think he can not control his temper. I just hope they all are bering honest and fort-right but who knows but I did hear something on the radio yesterday and I wish you could comment on it. I was in my car there was a talk show on a call in person was on the phone and I must admit I did not hear all of his comments but he was saying he would never vote for Kerry because he it had something to do with his agreeing with Jane Fonda during the Viet-Nam war I had never heard about this before do you know anytging about it? If so could you please comment?

Kerry spoke to / led a group of Vietnam veterans who protested the Vietnam war, throwing away someone else's war medals in protest and urging others to do the same.

I've also heard it mentioned that Kerry actually threw the ribbons to his own medals away, keeping the actual medals so he could promote an effective protest and keep his wartime honors at the same time. An effective way of having your cake and eating it too.

In either case, there's no dispute Kerry did protest the Vietnam war. Although, not with the same brazen stupidity that Jane Fonda "protested".

There's a 75 year old woman reading Foo? Damn, makes me feel young.